You’ll have to join euro! Scots warned of the high price they will pay for supporting independence

January 10th, 2012

FAKE NEWS for the Zionist agenda

Warning came as Labour pledged to join forces with the Coalition to save the 300-year-old Union with England
Scottish government furious at PM David Cameron’s attempts to wrestle
control back from First Minister Alex Salmond

By
James Chapman

Last updated at 1:39 AM on 10th January 2012

Scots will be told that a vote for independence will mean them being forced to ditch the pound and join the faltering euro.

The warning came as Labour pledged to join forces with the Coalition to save the 300-year-old Union with England.

As senior Labour figures signalled their backing for David Cameron’s high-risk attempt to force Holyrood to hold an independence referendum quickly, Government sources said Scotland’s future in the EU would be a central issue.

Government sources said Scotland¿s future in the EU would be a central issue.

The Scottish National party and its leader Alex Salmond, pictured right accused Mr Cameron, pictured left, of dictating the terms of a referendum to Scotland

Constitutional experts believe an independent Scotland would be forced to reapply for EU membership – and, like all new members, would have to commit to joining the ill-fated single currency.

Scotland’s nationalist government reacted with fury yesterday to the Prime Minister’s attempts to wrestle control back from First Minister Alex Salmond.

The SNP claimed Mr Cameron was attempting to dictate to Scotland the terms of a referendum – a strategy that would only increase support for leaving the UK.

Tensions also emerged last night in the Coalition over the idea of imposing an 18-month deadline for a legally binding referendum.

Government legal advice published today will confirm an independence referendum can only be legally valid if both Westminster and Holyrood parliaments agree to it going ahead.

Scotland's nationalist government reacted with fury yesterday to the Prime Minister's attempts to wrestle control back from First Minister Alex Salmond (pictured right)

Scotland’s nationalist government reacted with fury yesterday to the Prime Minister’s attempts to wrestle control back from First Minister Alex Salmond (pictured right)

Mr Salmond is thought to want to conduct the poll in 2014 to coincide with the 700th anniversary of the Battle of Bannockburn, Scotland’s most famous military victory over England.

It is understood he hopes resentment over Government austerity measures will be at a peak then.

A senior Government source last night said the offer to the SNP will include four key requirements – a ‘sunset clause’, to ensure the referendum is held sooner rather than later; a simple ‘yes/no’ question to ensure Mr Salmond does not attempt a second question on ‘independence lite’; oversight by the independent Electoral Commission; and no vote for anyone aged 16 and 17.

The source suggested that the Government may order a referendum itself if Mr Salmond drags his feet and refuses to hold a ballot.

Scottish Labour leader Johann Lamont, pictured said a referendum should be held a in Scotland

Mr Cameron, who has ordered Chancellor George Osborne to take charge of the campaign to save the Union, said he was not trying to ‘dictate’ to Scotland.

But he insisted the current uncertainty was damaging Scotland’s economy, with businesses unsure whether to invest because of the question marks over its future.

‘I think it is at least rational to put to the Scottish people, would it be better to have a more fair and decisive question put earlier?’ the Prime Minister said.

Scottish Labour leader Johann Lamont said last night: ‘We want the referendum to be held as quickly as possible and we want it to be run in Scotland. If these proposals help there to be a quick, clear and decisive result we would welcome them.’

A spokesman for Mr Salmond said: ‘The days of Tory governments at Westminster determining what happens in Scotland on the basis of one MP – one fewer than pandas in Scotland – are over.’

But Dr Jo Murkens, senior lecturer in law at the London School of Economics, said claims the country could remain in the EU and keep the pound were ‘bizarre’.

‘Continued membership would only be possible with the approval of all 27 member states,’ she said. ‘An independent Scotland would have to join the EU as a new accession state, which could take years.

‘All the new member states are legally obliged to adopt the euro at some future point.’

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We will indeed be minnows in a sea of sharks,We have incredibly uncertain waters to charter in the next few years,and our “lot” will be better served collectively instead of this independance dinosaur rhetoric. The way ahead is to keep united and please remember rmost people in Scotland are not interested in Independance period. The interest is jobs and economy . Long live the UK and i say that as a Scot!

– Fred the shred, London, 10/1/2012 06:14

Scaremongers at work here, the Euro will be long gone before the Scotts get a referendum, let alone independence.

– Paul Radford, Medway Towns, 10/1/2012 06:13

Here comes the scare stories, the sad fact is all the suckers believe them.

– John L, SuckerLand, CRIMINAL CESSPIT ZONE, EUSSR, 10/1/2012 06:13

Oh, here we go. I’m on the fence about the independence thing, but you can bet your last pound coin that the Tories and Labour will lie through their back teeth about the issue, in order to get what they want. Protestants will be told that it’ll mean “the Catholics will get in”; Catholics will be told that it’ll mean “the Protestants will get in”. English people resident here will be told that they’ll be “expelled”. Scots will be told that “the English will rule”. Lies, lies, lies. I can suggest to Salmond one measure that will ensure he gets a yes result at the referendum: promise a law to send politicians who lie, directly to jail. I’d vote for that. So would virtually everyone up here. But it won’t happen. They say people get the government they deserve. We must really have been bad to be governed by such a crowd of intellectual and moral pygmies.

– john, scotland, 10/1/2012 06:10

I am Scottish and DO NOT want independence. Nor do any of my friends or family. If a referendum is held I believe it will be a no to independence…or at least I sincerely hope so.

– Kirsty, Glasgow, Scotland, 10/1/2012 06:05

I am Scotish but live in England. Are they saying I do not have a say? If I don’t will I need a work permit or have to apply to immigrate to England. Will it mean that if I have to have a Scotish passport I will not have the same freedom I have with a UK passport i.e will Scotland have free movement in Europe, be part of the US Visa waiver program, have visa free travel to most countries? These are just one small issue with this loony idea. In Scotland we allways had this jingoistic “we want independance” rant and then I travelled and ended up in London, after that I realised an Independant Scotland would be and have as much clout internationally as Lichtenstein (probably less).

– gus a lawyer, London, 10/1/2012 06:05

Oil and gas have been discovered off Cyprus, it is possible it could be found around the coast of England and Wales. If the oil the Scots have around their coast had been found around the English, do they think the English would not have shared it?, of course not. I say to the Scots your Oil will run out, and beware the law of unintended consequences , and the saying, ” if it isn’t broken then don’t fix it. One of the consequences should they vote for separation would be years of one party rule by the SNP and all the evils one party rule (any party) entail, could this be one of the reasons the SNP want it so much? As for wanting 16 and 17 year olds having the vote, well their decision would be made after one stanza of Flower of Scotland.

– william pemberton, kings lynn, norfolk, 10/1/2012 06:05

I think that on the last count there are more Scots living outside Scotland than in. And most of them seem to be in the House of Commons.
I’m sure that the majority of Scots realise that if they did part from the UK the gravy train of free University and free prescriptions would soon be a thing of the past.
Salmond is a Scottish version of John Prescott. So take that as a warning!
I can’t wait to see how long it will take Sarkosy and Merkle to have photo opportunities of shakeing hands with Salmond just to get back at Cameron

– John, Norfolk,England, 10/1/2012 06:03

Oh dear, silly Salmond seems to have shot himself in the foot. I know not many places in Europe will touch Scottish pound notes, so joining the Euro is inevitable really, plus the £20million a day thereabouts contribution to the EU coffers they will have to pay. Oh, this means our contribution will therefore be reduced by £20million a day. Carry on Salmond, you’re doing a good job.

– Trevor, Ammanford, Wales, 10/1/2012 06:02

It is disappointing to see the many spiteful, anti-Scottish comments coming apparently from English contributors. If their viewpoint is representative of the English people, perhaps it is indeed time that the Scots went their own way.
– Ivan, New Zealand, 10/1/2012 16…I don’t think it is Ivan but it’s the Scots who want to leave and that point of view is all about hating the English based on how they see the history of both countries. The Scots know full well that none of this equates to the modern world it is simply as they see it an opportunity for pay back. The reaction of English posters here including me is to say if you want out go. When you get a poster stating he would like to see England drift in to oblivion you know he doesn’t like the English.We are not a nation that takes kindly to a statement like that-what nation does? There has always been some banter between nations but this is different. The comments are from the English who have had enough of nasty Scots harping on

– James, Ascot, 10/1/2012 06:01

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