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May 8th, 2012 
FAKE NEWS for the Zionist agenda Press TV has interviewed David Lindorff, author and investigative journalist from Philadelphia about Afghan President Karzai’s condemnation against the US over the slaughter of Afghan civilians and how seriously the US will take this warning. What follows is an approximate transcript of the interview.
Press TV: This is the second time that President Karzai has raised the issue of Afghan civilian deaths at the hands of US-led forces in the country. Why didn’t he bring this up before signing the strategic partnership pact with the US considering it would have given him more leverage in the matter?
Lindorff: Karzai is a US puppet, so you know, he’s doing this for domestic consumption in Afghanistan obviously, but the reality is he doesn’t really have any power, the US has the power. We’ve got the military; we supply the arms to his troops and so it’s basically talk on his part. It doesn’t really amount to much; he has very little control over the US.
Press TV: What do you make of the timing of Karzai’s concerns? Do you think it is more to do with his own image at home as well as trying to curb the US sentiment; and is it going to work?
Lindorff: The answer to your first question is yes, it’s his image at home. He has spoken up numerous times when the US has slaughtered kids and he says he is at the end of his rope – His rope has been at the end many times.
If he was a real leader of his country he could throw the US out tomorrow. But he’s not doing that because he’s not a real leader and he can’t throw the US out. It’s an occupied country; the US is in control; and until the US is down to a handful of troops, we know who is calling the shots – and it’s the US.
So he isn’t going to be successful in getting the US to stop killing Afghans because that is the basic premise of US counterinsurgency is to terrorize the population in the hope that they will stop supporting the local fighters.
Press TV: Karzai has also said that the civilian deaths could put the strategic pact at risk. Would the Afghan government really pull out of the pact if things don’t go the way it wants?
Lindorff: I don’t see it happening. I don’t see the Afghan government as having any power at all, I mean, it has no money, it has no weapons, it has no significant allies to prop it up… It’s a very, very weak government; it doesn’t even control most of the territory in Afghanistan, which is really tribal and supported by local war lords in different areas. So, it’s a very weak government and it can’t do anything.
What Karzai is doing is just talk and bluster meant really for local consumption and to look like he’s standing up for Afghans.
Press TV: It brings into question the future of this strategic pact with the US considering the anti-US sentiment is on the rise in Afghanistan. Even the parliament is not in agreement with this pact.
And even if the US does stay for another decade at least, the people they’re training in the Afghan military have turned against their own trainers at times – we have had various incidence of that. Where does it leave this pact then?
Lindorff: The pact is really both a cover for Karzai who needs to make it look like he’s getting the US out; it’s also a cover for the Obama administration, which has to look like it’s ending the war, without really ending it.
So, I think the end result is the US will be driven out of Afghanistan. You won’t see it happen before the election because Obama can’t afford to look like he lost. And after that you’ll probably see the US pulling out – that would be my guess.
Then you’ll also see that Karzai will be a short-time figure in Afghanistan’s history, too because without the US there he has no one to support him so he’s probably, my guess would be, shoveling money into Swiss banks and he’ll take a plane out at some point and Afghanistan will be run by the tribes again.
SC/JR
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