‘Saleh de facto power ruling Yemen rule’

Press TV has conducted an interview with Moufid Jaber with the Center for Middle East Studies and Public Relations about who is actually ruling Yemen and what has become of the Yemeni revolution. The following is an approximate transcription of the interview.

Press TV: Do you think that Saleh is still the defacto ruler in Yemen and if so, what needs to be done in order to remove obstacles preventing this revolution, if you want to call it that, from going forward?

Jaber: First there should be a national dialogue that should include all the major players including the Houthis and the Southern movement – all the major players that have a stake or have a say in what should be happening in Yemen.

You know, the government is still governed by the GMP (Joint Meeting Parties) i.e. Ali Abdullah Saleh’s Party. Power was handed over to his deputy, Abdrabbuh Hadi, which is Ali Abdullah Saleh’s person.

So, in a great way Ali Abdullah Saleh is still the power behind the throne in Yemen and so for things to move forward… for the revolution to actually go through, there should be a national dialogue; and there should be a new Constitution that should be drafted that would appease all parties in Yemen.

And also most importantly there should be new elections because there haven’t been elections since 2003, which were parliamentary elections. There should be new elections for the revolution to go through and in order for the people to be able to purge the remnants of the old regime from power.

Press TV: Does the solution to what the problem is taking place in Yemen, does it lie outside of the country or inside of the country?

Jaber: The solution lies both outside the country and inside of the country. Saudi Arabia has a lot of influence in Yemen and it doesn’t suit Saudi Arabia that there be a democracy in Yemen and so, yes, Saudi Arabia has a great deal of influence and any solution to the Yemeni problem should come through the way of Saudi Arabia, but at the same time you have many parties inside of Yemen that are also part of the solution.

As I said before the Houthis and the Southern movement and all of these people have a say in what should happen so any solution would include the people who are both inside of Yemen and Saudi Arabia…

Press TV: You say the solution must include Saudi Arabia and we saw what Saudi Arabia, what they were involve in prior to this and actually leading up to basically Saleh getting a clean slate.

So, how optimistic could one be that Saudi Arabia could actually provide a solution that would be something that the majority of the people of Yemen want?

Jaber: Well, you know Saudi Arabia doesn’t have an interest in there being democracy in Yemen so whether we like it or not Saudi Arabia has a great deal of influence inside of Yemen and so even if the Yemeni people are striving towards having a different kind of state i.e. one that suits the Yemeni people, this is going to be a force that counters these efforts by the Yemeni people.

As I said Saudi Arabia because Saudi Arabia is a party, which supported Ali Abdullah Saleh and Saudi Arabia lobbied the American government very strongly to keep Ali Abdullah Saleh in power and so whatever efforts the Yemenis are going to try to do in order to move forward, Saudi Arabia is going to have a large say in what happens in this issue.

Press TV: There are many that say that the Israelis are playing a very important role inside of Yemen in causing chaos and division. How do you see that – what’s your take on that comment?

Jaber: It’s very probable that the Israelis by way of many different organizations can have a role in sewing instability in Yemen through al-Qaeda most notably because this is the main organization that is causing the most problems, so, yes, but not directly – probably through many channels that lead to al-Qaeda in Yemen

It’s very probably a way that the Israelis are using this tool to cause instability in Yemen by the way of al-Qaeda and of course through political means through the US.

The US of course as well as Saudi Arabia are trying to keep the old regime as it is because this regime is and has always been loyal to the US and the political line of the US and Saudi Arabia.

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