‘Russia against foreign meddling in Syria’

Addressing the United Nation Security Council during a meeting about the Middle East, Sergei Lavrov said on Monday that no conclusion can be achieved on Syria by misleading the international community, adding that a stable settlement can be achieved only through dialogue between the government and the opposition.

Meanwhile, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton called on Russia and China to stand behind resolving what she called the humanitarian and political crisis in Syria. Russia has twice joined China in vetoing UN Security Council resolutions against the Syrian government

Press TV talks with Christopher Walker, a former Moscow correspondent of The Times, to further discuss the matter.

What follows is an approximate transcript of the interview.

Press TV: Mr. Walker, let’s focus on what Russian foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov said, earlier today at the UN Security Council meeting.

Without mentioning Western countries, Lavrov said that unilateral sanctions, moves to “regime change” and encouraging the opposition were risky recipes of geopolitical engineering which, in his words, can only result in a spread of the conflict. He also slammed the manipulation of the UN Security Council on Syria.

Why is Russia so concerned about the UN role in Syria?

Walker: Well, because I think it feels slightly cornered. Really its only ally in this viewpoint is China and Russia has long disliked intervention in foreign sovereign states by the UN or by other governments. And it sees a danger; I think, very much here that what happened in Libya could happen in Syria.

In Libya, if you remember, as Mr. Lavrov pointed out, what began as a UN resolution providing air cover ended up with NATO jets actually conducting bombing sorties and I think very much Mr. Lavrov is determined to prevent that happening and to keep the Russian minority in international term’s viewpoint that Mr. Assad in Damascus is fighting a conflict against armed groups assisted by al-Qaeda rather than the Western viewpoint that it is fighting a sort of last-ditch stand against a liberation struggle.

There are those who think that Mr. Lavrov’s point of view is slightly geared towards his domestic or Russia’s domestic situation and they certainly do not want any spread of the unrest against Mr. Putin getting on to the scale of the Syria.

At the moment, it is only in the Level of streets rather minor street demonstrations.

Press TV: Mr. Walker, you referred in your comments to the issue of Libya here. That was part of my next question. When Sergei Lavrov did say that that he does not want the situation in Syria to become Libya-like scenario, first of all do you think that in the case of Syria that is what the US and its allies are looking for? Are they looking for some kind of military intervention here?

We remember President Barack Obama saying a while back, that he does not want to get involved militarily, at least unilaterally in the case of Syria.

So what are they looking for?

Walker: Well, the danger is that what they are looking for today won’t be what they are looking for tomorrow. These things ratchet up.

Mr. Obama has already extended his wish list to saying that the US might provide some sort of aid, assistance; people look back to Vietnam where the American involvement began very much as a sort of aid exercise with advisors.

They fear the West will always go forward by stealthy steps towards extending whatever is agreed at the moment that an agreement now does not hold for what could be happening in two months. So they are very wary.

Press TV: Basically there is now a major difference of opinion then between Russia and China and the rest of the UN Security Council members.

Sergei Lavrov was asked about how these differences are going to be bridged, and he said what is important is that they have to come with a common approach that would be accepted by the all sides.

Do you think that is going to happen though?

Walker: No, not immediately. They may try to paper over some of the cracks but Russia has not shown any real enthusiasm for that.

It is quite happy to be seen as standing up for what it sees to be a legitimate case in Damascus and it is not going to cave in to Western criticism in New York.

MY/MSK/JR

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